July 13, 2005
When cultural touchstones attack

Confession time: Despite being a high school student in the 1980s, I've never actually seen any of the John Hughes high school movie trinity. No Sixteen Candles, no The Breakfast Club, and no Pretty in Pink. I know, it's hard to believe they let me enter the Nineties with such a glaring hole in my cultural resume, but there it is.

So I'm therefore not sure if I'm allowed to be snarky about the possibility of a sequel to The Breakfast Club or not. Thankfully, I don't have to be as long as Pete is on the job. I will say that if they use the treatment suggested by Michael in the comments, I might actually be tempted to watch it. Hell, I might even consult the source material first so I'd know where all the in-jokes are. I suppose I'll have to understand it sooner or later so I can fully explain the 80s to Olivia some day as boomer parents had to explain the 60s to their kids.

Posted by Charles Kuffner on July 13, 2005 to TV and movies | TrackBack
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Don't feel too bad. I also have not seen any of the films in question.

I also have never seen E.T., any of the Star Wars films other than the first one (and that was five years ago), any of the Star Trek films, or any of the Indiana Jones films.

As far as I'm concerned, they can call the sequel to "The Breakfast Club" "The Lose Your Lunch Club".

Posted by: William Hughes on July 13, 2005 2:37 PM

I haven't seen ET, but the others were on Skinamax about every 5 hours round the clock when I was in high school.

Posted by: Michael on July 13, 2005 3:31 PM

Gosh, I would thing the "John Hughes Trilogy" would be The Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, and Ferris Beuhler's Day Off. Ferris Beuhler made almost twice as much money at the box office. In fact, I'd put Weird Science ahead of Pretty in Pink, even though Pretty in Pink made more money because it came 2 years later and, by then, "John Hughes film" had a ready made market.

Posted by: pj on July 13, 2005 6:54 PM

I've seen it. Anthony Michael Hall was very good. I don't know what happened to him later, but then for that one movie he was very good.

The rest were probably a lot like someone the studio executives remembered going to high school with, which was sort of a drag, because in the voice over summing up, he makes the point that they're all more than their stereotypes, which, sadly, they really aren't.

Also no-one figures out that Ally Sheedy is pretty until she puts on lip gloss and a hairband. Also Molly what's her name's camisole is loose on Ally Sheedy, which as if.

Really, don't bother. High school was nothing like that if you were in high school at the time.

Sadly I know this.

Posted by: julia on July 13, 2005 8:27 PM

Really, don't bother. High school was nothing like that if you were in high school at the time.

Sadly I know this.

Word. "Sixteen Candles" was tolerable, even if it did feature Hughes' trademark monstro-party. "Breakfast Club" had all the depth of an after-school special, and "Pretty in Pink" might as well have been filmed on Mars.

"Weird Science" is the best "John Hughes film," IMO.

Posted by: Pete on July 13, 2005 10:39 PM

Anthony Michael Hall was very good. I don't know what happened to him later

You wouldn't recognize him; he morphed into The Hulk. Or maybe The Thing...

How come nobody ever mentions "Some Kind of Wonderful"? I thought that was a cute flick.

Posted by: PDiddie on July 14, 2005 8:23 AM

"Some Kind of Wonderful" is often said to be the best of the John Hughes flicks. I think it doesn't get the props it deserves because it was one of the last ones and the whole idea had pretty well been done by then.

Personally, my favorite 80s movie is "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" (hence my domain of ninetimes.net). "Sixteen Candles" is a close second, now more because it has the always adorable John Cusack in it.

I'm kind of surprised Hughes hasn't gone on to make more movies about the "came of age in the 80s" crowd. I guess we're not as interesting in our 30s as we were in our late teens.

Posted by: Sue on July 14, 2005 5:19 PM

Some Kind of Wonderful wasn't directed by Hughes -- it's a Hughes knock off, albeit possibly better.

Posted by: pj on July 16, 2005 2:05 PM

I also have never seen E.T., any of the Star Wars films other than the first one (and that was five years ago), any of the Star Trek films, or any of the Indiana Jones films.

Being a sci-fi buff, I've seen all of the above, except the very last Trek and the latest (first!) three Star Wars. But I'll probably get around to even those eventually.

My capsule reviews:

E.T.: Mildly entertaining fluff. Borrow the video from a friend; I wouldn't pay to rent it, though.

Indiana Jones: Good action/adventure with a good measure of magical special effects thrown in. Paranormal crap usually puts me off, but I liked these (but I liked the Xena TV series too, so that may not mean much).

Trek: Of the ones based on the original series, Star Trek II through IV were the best. They're also a trilogy, so you'll have to watch them in order for the latter ones to make sense. I also enjoyed the Next Generation-based movies, but the problem with all the Trek movies is that they're essentially sequels to the TV shows. (And vice versa; several episodes of Trek spin-off shows referenced the later movies.) So if you didn't watch Trek on TV, the movies won't be as enjoyable.

Star Wars: Since you haven't seen the original three, you're in the enviable position of being able to watch the entire six episodes in order. I've only seen episodes IV through VI (the ones released in the 70's and 80's) so I can't comment on the others, but I suspect putting them in their intended sequence will make for a more coherent story.

Aside from the not-so-subtle anti-science, pro-paranormal message of "The Force," my only complaint with the Star Wars saga is that there's no Episode VII! You see, at the end of Episode VI, the evil Emperor is killed, and the movie gives us the impression that Everyone Lives Happily Ever After. But in reality, removing even the most evil of dictators doesn't automatically result in freedom and democracy (something we all wish BushCo understood before they undertook their little Iraq adventure)! It took a Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe after Hitler and Mussolini were defeated, after all. Luke Skywalker may have been celebrating at the end of Episode VI, but his work had barely begun.

Posted by: Mathwiz on July 16, 2005 5:11 PM